Francesa's comment on Gase, post Dallas win. Very interesting.

[WowOhWow]

Found a comment Mike made on Gase very interesting yesterday.  I felt the same way but couldn't quite put my finger on exactly what it was that I saw in Gase that bothered me so much during the games that Sam was out.

Mike was commenting on the Jets win, very complementary of Sam and what he brings to our franchise.  At the end of his statement he commented on how Gase was pouting after his QB's got hurt and really let the franchise down.  Literally didn't even try to compete.  Mentioned the players stayed together (credit to Gase) but thought it was very telling that there is a "lot of quit in Gase".  

I felt the same way.  I felt like he literally quit when the going got hard.  Rare to see in a NFL head coach...who are usually the type to grit their teeth and fight through anything.  Gase didn't and it bugged the crap out of me.

Go ahead and kill the messenger but although we won a game and Sam showed the world what a difference a competent QB can make...but man, Gase is just not the type of coach I believe will last very long here.

It's hard in the best of time in NY...

Go ahead and tell me I'm not a real fan (can't wait).

[GREENBEAN]

7 minutes ago, WowOhWow said:

Found a comment Mike made on Gase very interesting yesterday.  I felt the same way but couldn't quite put my finger on exactly what it was that I saw in Gase that bothered me so much during the games that Sam was out.

Mike was commenting on the Jets win, very complementary of Sam and what he brings to our franchise.  At the end of his statement he commented on how Gase was pouting after his QB's got hurt and really let the franchise down.  Literally didn't even try to compete.  Mentioned the players stayed together (credit to Gase) but thought it was very telling that there is a "lot of quit in Gase".  

I felt the same way.  I felt like he literally quit when the going got hard.  Rare to see in a NFL head coach...who are usually the type to grit their teeth and fight through anything.  Gase didn't and it bugged the crap out of me.

Go ahead and kill the messenger but although we won a game and Sam showed the world what a difference a competent QB can make...but man, Gase is just not the type of coach I believe will last very long here.

It's hard in the best of time in NY...

Go ahead and tell me I'm not a real fan (can't wait).

Interesting. What was the reasoning for that comment?  I was thinking that the offense was trimmed down due to what Falk could handle. We could see that Falk was struggling to see open receivers and looked shaky back there behind a suspect OL. You can't open up the playbook when the QB is struggling with the basics. 

It's really a shame too. Falk was simply not ready IMO. Not ready even with protection from a stout OL, but he was thrown to the wolves and got cut for it. His career may be over and that just sucks in reality. 

I am not a Gase fan but I don't know if I saw quit in him as you are stating. Any particular reasons for that thought other than a feeling? 

[Bowles Movement]

11 minutes ago, WowOhWow said:

Found a comment Mike made on Gase very interesting yesterday.  I felt the same way but couldn't quite put my finger on exactly what it was that I saw in Gase that bothered me so much during the games that Sam was out.

Mike was commenting on the Jets win, very complementary of Sam and what he brings to our franchise.  At the end of his statement he commented on how Gase was pouting after his QB's got hurt and really let the franchise down.  Literally didn't even try to compete.  Mentioned the players stayed together (credit to Gase) but thought it was very telling that there is a "lot of quit in Gase".  

I felt the same way.  I felt like he literally quit when the going got hard.  Rare to see in a NFL head coach...who are usually the type to grit their teeth and fight through anything.  Gase didn't and it bugged the crap out of me.

Go ahead and kill the messenger but although we won a game and Sam showed the world what a difference a competent QB can make...but man, Gase is just not the type of coach I believe will last very long here.

It's hard in the best of time in NY...

Go ahead and tell me I'm not a real fan (can't wait).

That’s one spin.  Another is that he knew the limitations of his third string QB and didn’t ask him to do things he couldn’t.  Guess time will tell but the team had a players only meeting and reportedly it wasn’t a bitch session about the coaching and I’d think they’d know better than anyone

[GREENBEAN]

3 minutes ago, Bowles Movement said:

That’s one spin.  Another is that he knew the limitations of his third string QB and didn’t ask him to do things he couldn’t.  Guess time will tell but the team had a players only meeting and reportedly it wasn’t a bitch session about the coaching and I’d think they’d know better than anyone

Come on. You think the players know better than Fat Mike?  

[Ken Schroy]

25 minutes ago, WowOhWow said:

Found a comment Mike made on Gase very interesting yesterday.  I felt the same way but couldn't quite put my finger on exactly what it was that I saw in Gase that bothered me so much during the games that Sam was out.

Mike was commenting on the Jets win, very complementary of Sam and what he brings to our franchise.  At the end of his statement he commented on how Gase was pouting after his QB's got hurt and really let the franchise down.  Literally didn't even try to compete.  Mentioned the players stayed together (credit to Gase) but thought it was very telling that there is a "lot of quit in Gase".  

I felt the same way.  I felt like he literally quit when the going got hard.  Rare to see in a NFL head coach...who are usually the type to grit their teeth and fight through anything.  Gase didn't and it bugged the crap out of me.

Go ahead and kill the messenger but although we won a game and Sam showed the world what a difference a competent QB can make...but man, Gase is just not the type of coach I believe will last very long here.

It's hard in the best of time in NY...

Go ahead and tell me I'm not a real fan (can't wait).

You are not a real fan.

[Philc1]

Fatso is 100% right.  Look at how unprepared Simian and Falk were

[20andOut]

While definitely still on the fence about Gase,  Have to agree with others that I think it had alot to do with Falk's limitations. Remember he was practice squad. Also have to look at some of the quotes from players about Falk. Most tried to be nice with comments like "he was giving his best" but one of the linemen (maybe Beechum) made a comment after the game yesterday along the lines of "nice to have a real QB back there"

[RoadFan]

WellOhWell that didn't take long to flip flop back to anti-Gase...  LOhL

[varjet]

I think game 1 was a Douglas negative and games 2-4 Gase negatives.  It is possible that Falk was so bad that Gase knew he was helpless. But Falk was also Gase’ guy. 
 

Harrison is still not playing.  Originally blamed Gase for not playing him.  But he must be really bad.  Gase and Mac resigned him 

Let’s see how Gase manages the rest of the season.  I don’t see him lasting in NY, but Douglas needs a roster he can sell to another coach. 

[KRL]

I'm no Gase defender, I questioned the hire and he has a lot to prove.  People
can bash him for those three games but everyone refuses to acknowledge this one
point, Falk was a practice squad QB who had no business starting.  Could it be
that Falk couldn't handle what Gase try to feed him and he had to dumb the offense
down?  The post game comments by multiple players seem to indicate that, Beachum
said its amazing what the offense can do with someone who knows what they're doing
back there

[Ohio State NY Jets fan]

interesting - but not surprising considering how the first game went and the pressures during the last 6 months of Gase's career

Sam going down (maybe literally) and losing CJ was kick in the nuts to Jets Nation - not surprised if it had an impact on Gase

[Untouchable]

I think the Diet Coke is beginning to seep into Fatty’s brain.

”Lemme tell you sometin, ogay? Dis Adam Gase characta has got no fya, ogay?”

[Adoni Beast]

I have some conflicting feelings about this situation.  First, it’s hard to win with a practice squad QB. I remember when Brady was suspended and Jimmy G got hurt, the Pats started a young Brissett against Houston. They barely let him throw the ball, finishing with about 100 yards through the air. Patriots still won, because they had a good team to support the situation.

I agree with Francesa in the sense Gase was pouting and proving a point that the roster that Mac built was garbage, unable to support major injuries. Gase didn’t seem to tailor anything around Falks strengths because Falk has no strengths.

But it did seem like Gase took no gambles, no shots to make a big play, almost content with losing those games because he knew they were a lost cause.

Either way, with Sam here...give us more of Sunday !

[Chrebetfan80]

5 minutes ago, KRL said:

I'm no Gase defender, I questioned the hire and he has a lot to prove.  People
can bash him for those three games but everyone refuses to acknowledge this one
point, Falk was a practice squad QB who had no business starting.  Could it be
that Falk couldn't handle what Gase try to feed him and he had to dumb the offense
down?  The post game comments by multiple players seem to indicate that, Beachum
said its amazing what the offense can do with someone who knows what they're doing
back there

like not being a statue in the pocket, and throwing the ball to open receivers instead of locking onto his first read and having to see the throw WIDE OPEN to be able to pull the trigger? 

The majority of people don't watch the ALL 22 film or understand offensive principals and schemes, so it's hard as a fan, to make judgements on players and coaches when we really don't have ALL the information.  

 

[Maxman]

Does Francesca realize that this is the first year of a new offense? they have to get everyone up to speed and the new CBA is very limiting and what they can accomplish in the offseason.

Let's kill Gase because he has helped the second-year quarterback in Darnold make a big leap forward.

Really wish he would have spent the offseason getting Falk up to speed for those three games that they would have lost anyway.

I hope they go out and beat the snot out of the Patriots. Then Francesca just focus on being negative towards the Giants as the Jets go on a tear.

 

[Larz]

Specifically how did he quit?

[shawn306]

28 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said:

Interesting. What was the reasoning for that comment?  I was thinking that the offense was trimmed down due to what Falk could handle. We could see that Falk was struggling to see open receivers and looked shaky back there behind a suspect OL. You can't open up the playbook when the QB is struggling with the basics. 

It's really a shame too. Falk was simply not ready IMO. Not ready even with protection from a stout OL, but he was thrown to the wolves and got cut for it. His career may be over and that just sucks in reality. 

I am not a Gase fan but I don't know if I saw quit in him as you are stating. Any particular reasons for that thought other than a feeling? 

 

43 minutes ago, WowOhWow said:

Found a comment Mike made on Gase very interesting yesterday.  I felt the same way but couldn't quite put my finger on exactly what it was that I saw in Gase that bothered me so much during the games that Sam was out.

Mike was commenting on the Jets win, very complementary of Sam and what he brings to our franchise.  At the end of his statement he commented on how Gase was pouting after his QB's got hurt and really let the franchise down.  Literally didn't even try to compete.  Mentioned the players stayed together (credit to Gase) but thought it was very telling that there is a "lot of quit in Gase".  

I felt the same way.  I felt like he literally quit when the going got hard.  Rare to see in a NFL head coach...who are usually the type to grit their teeth and fight through anything.  Gase didn't and it bugged the crap out of me.

Go ahead and kill the messenger but although we won a game and Sam showed the world what a difference a competent QB can make...but man, Gase is just not the type of coach I believe will last very long here.

It's hard in the best of time in NY...

Go ahead and tell me I'm not a real fan (can't wait).

I think it is a fair comment. Gase obviously had to dumb down the offense and I am sure there were probably things he wanted to run but couldn't because of who had at QB. 

Why he went with Falk instead of a guy like Osweiler is beyond me.

He basically took Powell and Montgomery out of the entire offense entirely during those games and put it all on Bell.

[ZachEY]

It’s almost as if Francesca is smart and insightful when saying what we already believe and a dumb dumb Jets hater when he says what we don’t believe.

[CTM]

1 minute ago, TeddEY said:

It’s almost as if Francesca is smart and insightful when saying what we already believe and a dumb dumb Jets hater when he says what we don’t believe.

Almost ?

[genot]

20 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

I think the Diet Coke is beginning to seep into Fatty’s brain.

”Lemme tell you sometin, ogay? Dis Adam Gase characta has got no fya, ogay?”

[Losmeister]

5 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

It’s almost as if Francesca is smart and insightful

to me? no. not ever.

and some dipweed sai we shoulda got simien AND osweiler...     smfh

[rangerous]

let's see.  parcells had no back up when vinny went down in 99 and he's supposed to be a super coach.  and then the team brought in rick mirer and went 0-3 before their first win against another 0-4 team.  finally mirer stunk it up so badly he was benched for lucas.  the point is it took parcells a few games to recover from losing his starter and gase lost his starter and back-up in a week.  imo that would be discouraging to anyone.  obviously how the team plays in all on gase but some things are too hard to overcome and once the shock wore off gase probably would've settled down.

[Bruce Harper]

I don’t know if Gase will succeed but that strikes me as total BS. The fat sleepy guy should try to coach a team with Falk and that OL.




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[JoJoTownsell1]

52 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

Fatso is 100% right.  Look at how unprepared Simian and Falk were

I'm not surprised you think fatcessa knows what he's talking about. 

[RoadFan]

Falk at QB was like asking him to captain a 50' yacht with bow and stern thrusters, when he was capable of a 12' skiff with a hand held outboard.

Exaggeration but you get the point...

[deucebag]

51 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

Fatso is 100% right.  Look at how unprepared Simian and Falk were

I respectfully disagree.  Siemian played what - a quarter and the Browns were coming hard after him.  Even in a perfect world Siemian is not a very good QB.  Falk does not have an NFL arm, has terrible field vision and zero pocket presence.  I have to assume Gase called as conservative a game plan as possible to avoid a turnover fest.

[Augustiniak]

2 minutes ago, deucebag said:

I respectfully disagree.  Siemian played what - a quarter and the Browns were coming hard after him.  Even in a perfect world Siemian is not a very good QB.  Falk does not have an NFL arm, has terrible field vision and zero pocket presence.  I have to assume Gase called as conservative a game plan as possible to avoid a turnover fest.

seriously.  the two games that gase prepared for with falk as the clear starter were at NE and at phily, the last 2 super bowl champs.  it was a futile situation, he knew it, the players knew it, NE and phily knew it.  

[Anthony Jet]

1 hour ago, WowOhWow said:

Found a comment Mike made on Gase very interesting yesterday.  I felt the same way but couldn't quite put my finger on exactly what it was that I saw in Gase that bothered me so much during the games that Sam was out.

Mike was commenting on the Jets win, very complementary of Sam and what he brings to our franchise.  At the end of his statement he commented on how Gase was pouting after his QB's got hurt and really let the franchise down.  Literally didn't even try to compete.  Mentioned the players stayed together (credit to Gase) but thought it was very telling that there is a "lot of quit in Gase".  

I felt the same way.  I felt like he literally quit when the going got hard.  Rare to see in a NFL head coach...who are usually the type to grit their teeth and fight through anything.  Gase didn't and it bugged the crap out of me.

Go ahead and kill the messenger but although we won a game and Sam showed the world what a difference a competent QB can make...but man, Gase is just not the type of coach I believe will last very long here.

It's hard in the best of time in NY...

Go ahead and tell me I'm not a real fan (can't wait).

Very interesting...

[Savage69]

43 minutes ago, Larz said:

Specifically how did he quit?

+1 To me quitting was resigning on a cocktail napkin like BB did to the Jets..

[Apache 51]

1 hour ago, Philc1 said:

Fatso is 100% right.  Look at how unprepared Simian and Falk were

They are not  good.

[Apache 51]

Didn't Gase give Sam all the Reps going into the Eagles game? Maybe I heard wrong? If that is true that tells me Gase was living to fight another day. Gave Sam an extra week to adjust to that under armor and get into a  starter mindset.

[NYJ37/12]

I think he looked frustrated and somber. Who wouldn't be?

[Smashmouth]

1 hour ago, WowOhWow said:

Found a comment Mike made on Gase very interesting yesterday.  I felt the same way but couldn't quite put my finger on exactly what it was that I saw in Gase that bothered me so much during the games that Sam was out.

Mike was commenting on the Jets win, very complementary of Sam and what he brings to our franchise.  At the end of his statement he commented on how Gase was pouting after his QB's got hurt and really let the franchise down.  Literally didn't even try to compete.  Mentioned the players stayed together (credit to Gase) but thought it was very telling that there is a "lot of quit in Gase".  

I felt the same way.  I felt like he literally quit when the going got hard.  Rare to see in a NFL head coach...who are usually the type to grit their teeth and fight through anything.  Gase didn't and it bugged the crap out of me.

Go ahead and kill the messenger but although we won a game and Sam showed the world what a difference a competent QB can make...but man, Gase is just not the type of coach I believe will last very long here.

It's hard in the best of time in NY...

Go ahead and tell me I'm not a real fan (can't wait).

Not going to say your not a real fan at all but I do think when Gase had to deal with a QB who just had basically zero chance to accomplish anything its very deflating. When you call a play and see that QB just can't execute and you have to go backwards in your playbook or dial in short passes because said QB can't see what the defense is doing that can be frustrating as well. Im not sure what Gase was supposed to do when his QB could not even convert a single 3rd down in 2 full weeks

[y2k8]

You can say that Gase did a horrendous job as HC while Sam was out, that's fair.  The performance speaks for itself.

But to say he "quit on the team" is not only baseless, it's absurd.  

[Jetster]

Gase went into a knife fight with a butter knife in New England & Philly. We last won a game in Gillette in 2010 & have NEVER won a game in Philly. Gase knew with Luke Falk we had no chance, the Oline knew with Luke Falk we had no chance, Frank Pollack knew that with Luke Falk behind his sh*tty Oline we had no chance, Gregg Williams & his defense knew unless they scored at least 24 points themselves they had no chance. Every Jet fan in the entire WORLD knew we had no chance. Vegas knew we had no chance of keeping the games within 13 points. 

But let's pretend that we went into both of those games bursting with confidence.