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    • I'll take "Straw Man Arguments No One Has Actually Ever Made" for $1,000, Alex. Of course Pressure "effects the game". But simply citing "player X had a pressure" without citing the result of the play he had that pressure on is telling only half the story. Once again, it's entirely possible (and the OP data shows that clearly) to have a defender get a "pressure" and the QB to still throw a 70 yard pass for a TD.  In such a case, did that "pressure" effect the play?  Yes.  Did that effect lead to a positive outcome?  Absolutely not. It's funny how so many folks here just hate the whole story, and want to cherry pick partial "stats" trying to defend guys who don't complete enough sacks, lol. Because a sack is definitive.  The completion percentage of sacks is 0.0%.  0 TD's.  0 Long Passes. The argument that HAS been made is "Sacks > Pressures" and guys who get pressures without getting many sacks aren't as valuable as all that, especially without a detailed analysis of the results of those pressures. Far too much nuance for this simplistic place, of course, lol.
    • If Rodgers can stay healthy, it sounds like he's motivated to play for some time.  If that happens, Travis' time will run out before getting his shot.  That and he will have to beat out the other camp arm, Pee Wee Jarrett, who is impressing while Travis is still slowly recovering from his broken leg and dislocated ankle.
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