Are the Jets still the worst team in AFC East?

[Jets4Life1979]

I've been reading comments from other fans on twitter saying how great the Jets did in the draft however, they're still gonna finish last in the division.  In my opinion, on paper the Jets roster is just as good as Miami and New England.  What do you think?

[kdels62]

Just now, Jets4Life1979 said:

I've been reading comments from other fans on twitter saying how great the Jets did in the draft however, they're still gonna finish last in the division.  In my opinion, on paper the Jets roster is just as good as Miami and New England.  What do you think?

They're gonna win the division. 

[jetsons]

Are the Jets still the worst team in AFC East?

Yes... Until they play a game & PROVE Otherwise... "Paper" doesn't take precedence over "Play"

[LSJF]

If we start winning games in our division and still relevant after thanksgiving than we are no longer the worst…

[Warfish]

2 minutes ago, jetsons said:

Yes... Until they play a game & PROVE Otherwise... "Paper" doesn't take precedence over "Play"

This.

But all we can evaluate today is "on-paper", and on paper they really knocked it out of the park this Draft.

Like I said after day 1, about as good a draft as anyone could have expected.

But yes, "best", "worst" is about wins, and that's months from now.  Not now.

[TuscanyTile2]

I think the term "take flight" is appropriate.  This team is finally starting to do so.  There's a chance we'll finish in last place but we won't be pushovers anymore.  There's also a chance we can finish in 2nd place, btw (I'm assuming Buffalo is the easy division winner).  

[J_Smith]

obviously nowhere near Buffalo
 

I think we have a roster that’s as competitive as New England but shy of Miami’s. I hate how cliche it is, but it really does come down to which of the 3 qbs develops the most

[The Crusher]

Yes, next question please 

[nycdan]

On paper (and I stress that part) I can't see how we haven't passed NE in terms of talent on the field.  The only real unknown right now is Zach.  In every other way, I see better talent on our side almost across the board.

MIA is closer for me.  They have one of the top WR tandems in the league, and a really good TE.  Tua is their big unknown and I think our OLine is better.  Defenses both look talented on paper.  

BUF, as long as they have that moose playing QB who apparently sold his soul to gain passing accuracy, is going to be the toughest out.  They are pretty strong across the roster.  Whatever weaknesses they have on defense will be that much harder to exploit with Von Miller in town.  I think the key to beating them may be in shutting down Diggs as they don't really have another threat.  THAT may be the key to why Gardner was our priority draft target.

[Rhg1084]

I don’t know how tf the Pats won 10 games last year, their roster is crap. Jets have a better roster but who knows what the records will look like from a w/l perspective. We also haven’t beaten them in about 10 years. Miami I have no clue how they’re gonna be, could be great or crash and burn.

 

Buffalo is obviously a Super Bowl favorite and we’re nowhere near them yet 

[New York Mick]

Yes, until they prove they aren’t. 

Bills

Fins

Pats

Jets 

 

[Bleedin Green]

In the end, it's still dependent on dramatic improvement from Wilson to not be the worst in the division.

If the light suddenly turns on for him, then that could change.

[Barry McCockinner]

Probably. Rookie projections don't mean crap until they do it on the field. 

On paper we look much better than last year but we wipe our butts with paper.

 

[FidelioJet]

I think the difference is - as of late - they were the worst team in the division - on paper and in reality.

Right now, paper says they're a hell of a lot better.  Completely different feeling.  

Obviously they need to bring it on the field but there's certainly reason for positivity.

[BigRy56]

On paper the Pats project as the worst team in the division. I think the Jets can wind up better than Miami - they're being overrated at this point IMO. Brian Flores was a big reason they were winning football games and they fired him

[DoomProphet]

13 minutes ago, Jets4Life1979 said:

I've been reading comments from other fans on twitter saying how great the Jets did in the draft however, they're still gonna finish last in the division.  In my opinion, on paper the Jets roster is just as good as Miami and New England.  What do you think?

The Faketriots are the worst team in the division now.

[TommyT]

We are the champions 

[UntouchableCrew]

We won't find out until live bullets start flying but I personally think we should be better than the Patriots and should be competing with the Dolphins for 2nd place. Bills are pretty clearly leaps and bounds the best team.

[Larz]

The NFL is a war of attrition. If Lawson and Becton are healthy and in shape, and the new performance department keeps the injury bug away, there is depth now at key positions. 
 

It’s an oversimplification, but if Zach just gets the ball out of his hand and doesn’t try to be the hero so much I don’t see why they can’t compete with Miami and the cheaters. 

[65 Toss Power Trap]

Yes, until they prove otherwise.

[defensedoesntgetyoulaid]

IMO the Pats are the worst team. At least on paper. They did well last year but had that run in the middle of the season, then went downhill when defenses figured out Mac.

They don't seem to have done much to improve their defense at all and I really think they just get extra credit at this point because of BB. Maybe they'll pay off the refs and end up winning the division somehow but I wouldn't be shocked at all to see them finish last.

I said this the other day, I think Tua is so limited in what he can do that he'll hold Miami back.

I was listening to Simms talk about Wilson and he convinced me that he'll take a big step this year. I could see the Jets starting out 2-2, 2-3 or something like that, with this board going crazy about how the coaches need to be fired, but then start to come on in the middle of the season when all the young players start to get their feet.

Bills have had it pretty easy the last two years, it'll be a dog fight this season I think. The Bills get extra credit for how they played in the playoffs, but we had some really bad games last season and have a much tougher schedule this year. They need to figure a way to play more games like they did in the playoffs and less like the one Vs Atlanta if they want to win the East again and get homefield advantage (which is the key to them getting to the SB)

[jetstream23]

Heard a podcast today that said the Jets now have the 3rd best roster in the AFC East and it's not all that far from Miami (at #2), with New England being last.

Most of the holes remaining on the starting roster are on D and they're not completely glaring holes.  The offense now has a minimum of average caliber talent across all 11 as well as 3-4 more average rotational players.  In other words, the offense is done and, QB unknowns aside, the Jets are now in a position with coming Drafts to look to go from good to great personnel-wise (notwithstanding injuries or departures of free agents).  I think I agree with this.

[Dcronin]

Wait, are you guys insane? Yes, by like a longshot this Jets roster is absolutely 100% the worst in the division? Are you kidding?

I mean, you have to say at this point, yes. I totally agree that that could change as early as training camp based on development, busts on other teams and injuries on other teams. 

[Rangers9]

Well Buff has to go into the season rated 1 in the division. After that there’s no overall leader we could be anywhere from 2 to 4. All 4 teams could have .500 or better records. I think we stack up with Miami and NEP and could split our games against them. I expect Zach to take two steps up over 2021 he could be better then Mac and Tua. 

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

[PepPep]

Pats had a weird draft...

What was up with the 4th Rd. Bailey Zappe pick. Cole Strange in the 1st? Tyquon Thornton in Rd. 2?

[undertow]

People are getting ahead of themselves these draft picks aren't gonna step on the field all pros there's going to be a learning curve and this year is still another development year....7 or 8 wins and being in every game is a good year.

[T0mShane]

It’s long forgotten, but this Jets team beat the Titans and Bengals, and went down to the wire with Tampa. If they get even above average QB play, they’ve shown that they can move the ball, and if they find a pass rush, the defense might not be historically bad again. All that said, they got absolutely face-****ed in their division games, and two of their four wins were to teams that were laying down for draft picks. 

[docdhc]

47 minutes ago, Jets4Life1979 said:

I've been reading comments from other fans on twitter saying how great the Jets did in the draft however, they're still gonna finish last in the division.  In my opinion, on paper the Jets roster is just as good as Miami and New England.  What do you think?

If you look at previous drafts there are always first rounders that don’t meet expectations or flat out bust. We have to wait until we see them on the field. For now let’s just enjoy how well they worked the process and  stay optimistic. 

[Irish Jet]

The Jets haven’t won a game by more than one score since November 2019.

I think we definitely need to see some actual football before we declare ourselves better than anyone.

[Joe W. Namath]

The Jets will finish 2nd in the AFC East this year.

[DepressedJetsFan23]

Let’s start with winning a divisional game. If I remember correctly the last divisional game the jets won was when they beat the bills on the last game of the year two seasons ago and the bills were headed to the playoffs and sat guys.

[EM31]

Probably still the worst in the AFCE but it might depend on things like how effective that Lawson and Becton are going to be coning off serious injuries.  If they are both fully back then we are automatically better, possibly much better even before the talent that has just been drafted over the last three days.

[maury77]

Only the Patriots have a roster that is arguably worse than the Jets, however, BB is still going to be a big advantage for them. Wilson really struggled the only time he played the Patriots last year. 

[RVAJet815]

On paper alone, this is the 2nd or 3rd best team in the east. They have to prove it on the field, though obviously. Forget Buffalo who's on another level, but This is a better team than New England right now, full stop. And they have more depth than Miami in quite a few areas.

Absolutely no reason this team can't hold its own in this division as constituted. And Joe will probably add some more in UDFA and FA before the games count.